Public Advisory Group Meeting #25
March 30, 2006
6:00 pm to 9:20 pm
FSJ Curling Arena
Meeting
Attendance:
Name |
Interest |
Phone |
Email or
Postal Address |
Participants
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Andrew Tyrrell |
Canfor |
787-3665 |
Andrew.Tyrrell@canfor.com |
David Menzies |
Canfor |
787-3613 |
Dave.Menzies@canfor.com |
Jeff Beale |
Canfor |
787-3651 |
Jeff.Beale@canfor.com |
Wes Neumeier |
Canfor |
787.3645 |
Wes.Neumeier@canfor.com |
John Rowe |
Canfor |
787-3680 |
John.Rowe@canfor.com |
John Deal |
Canfor |
962-3316 |
John.Deal@canfor.com |
Brian Farwell |
BC Timber
Sales |
262-3337 |
Brian.farwell@gov.bc.ca |
Walter Fister |
BC Timber
Sales |
262-3328 |
Walter.Fister@gov.bc.ca |
Andrew Moore |
|
789-3621 |
Andrew@taylordunnage.ca |
Doug Braybrook |
TEMBEC |
788-4509 |
Doug.braybrook@tembec.com |
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PAG Interest Representatives
and Alternates
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Budd Phillips |
Non-Commercial
Rec – Hunting Fishing |
785-1283 |
Budd.Phillips@worksafebc.com |
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Non-commercial
Rec- Non-consumptive |
785-2596 |
sgladysz@pris.ca |
Fred Klassen |
|
785-3901 |
Fred.ffc@telus.net |
Ron Wagner |
Labour |
787-0172 |
rojwagner@telus.net |
Peter Bueckert |
|
262-9580 |
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Roy Lube |
Non-Commercial
Rec- fishing/hunting |
787-7619 |
Rlube1@telus.net |
Darren Thiel |
Non-Commercial
Rec- fishing/hunting |
785-1461 |
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Dale Johnson |
Range |
262-3260 |
FAX: 262-3260 |
Ray Jackson |
Guide/Outfitters |
783-5220 |
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Larry Houley |
Rural
Communities |
263-7752 |
FAX: 787-2279 |
Wayne Sawchuk |
Environment/Conservation |
788-7871 |
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Advisors
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Anna Regnier |
Integrated
Land Mgt Bureau |
787-3563 |
Anna.regnier@gov.bc.ca |
Paul Wooding |
Canfor, PG |
604-661-5423 |
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Rob Kopecky |
Ministry of
Forests, Peace |
784-1200 |
Rob.kopecky@gov.bc.ca |
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Joelle Scheck |
Ministry of
Environment |
787-3393 |
Joelle.scheck@gov.bc.ca |
Janice Edwards |
MOFR Peace |
784-1241 |
Janice.A.Edwards@gov.bc.ca |
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Observers
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Roger St. John |
OGC |
787-3234 |
Roger.stjean@gov.bc.ca |
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Facilitator
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Gail Wallin |
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305-1003 |
Gwallin@wlake.com |
·
Gail Wallin welcomed all members to the meeting.
·
Meeting
opened at 6:30pm.
·
Roundtable
introductions were made. Those people
attending introduced themselves and specified what interest group they represent.
2. Review of Meeting Agenda
·
Draft
Agenda for tonight’s meeting was reviewed; no changes were recommended, agenda
was accepted.
·
Facilitator
provided an overview of the purpose of the meeting.
3. Review of Meeting Summary (Feb. 14, 2005)
·
PAG reviewed draft meeting #24 summary notes. PAG accepted the draft Meeting 24 notes with
no amendments.
·
PAG reviewed action items from meeting #24 notes. All actions were accepted by PAG to be
complete; however, action items regarding utilization standards, Trails, Review
of Public Complaints were to be discussed at Meeting 25.
4.
Update from Participants
Jeff Beale provided an update of local Canfor operations:
·
Thanked
the members of the PAG who went on the tour of the OSB facility.
·
Peace
Valley OSB currently at 70-75% productivity.
·
Issues
impacting productivity: cranes, railcars, log pond, and de-barkers.
·
Gave
an update on First Nations:
Ø
There
are six First Nation Groups in the Defined Forest Area (DFA)
Ø
In
2001,
Ø
Each
band receives 85,000m3/year.
Ø
In
2005, five of the bands had 40,000m3.
Ø
All
deciduous logging is complete, except Dunne-za who should be complete soon.
Ø
Louisiana
Pacific provides funding to First Nations to sit at the joint management
advisory (4 out of 6 bands show up).
Ø
$20,000
given to each First Nation band that goes to members who enter a forestry
program.
Ø
Six
Nation Ventures is operating a proportion of the OSB log yard. Currently have 11+ workers hired full time.
Ø
Continued
meetings with First Nations over herbicides and pesticides.
David Menzies provided an update of local Canfor operations:
Ø
4
long-term contractors (hired in previous years).
Ø
3
new quota contractors.
Ø
3
contractors affiliated with First Nations.
Note: All contractors are considered local due to being from the
Peace Area.
Ø
Ø
50%
of the TSA has been complete.
Ø
25%
is under contract and will be complete by March 2007.
Ø
Air
photos for remaining areas will be acquired in June and will be complete by
March 2008.
Brian Farwell provided an update of BCTS operations:
·
Acquired
International Standards Organization (ISO) 14001 certification.
·
Acquired
Canadian Standards Association (CSA) certification in the Code Pilot area.
·
Starting
on this year’s field season.
·
Planning
on harvesting 442,000m3 of coniferous and 180,000 m3 of
deciduous this season.
Question From PAG
Where
is the remainder of the volume coming from to supply the mills?
Response (Jeff Beale, Brian Farwell)
When
the OSB mill is at full production it will consume 1,100,000m3 of
deciduous trees a year. The other
volumes will come from Canfor’s various licenses and private sales.
Doug Braybrook provided an update of
TEMBEC operations:
·
Canfor
manages the coniferous Forest Licence for TEMBEC.
·
Have
strong connections with First Nations.
·
Allocate
volume to 3 First Nation groups
Ø
33.3%
to Blueberry (which is allocated to the coniferous Forest License in FSJ)
Ø
33.3%
to
Ø
33.3%
to Saulteau.
Andrew Moore provided an update of Cameron River Logging (CRL)
operations:
·
Canfor
manages timber license on behalf of CRL.
·
Received
certification for wood packaging.
Question From PAG
What
is certification for wood packaging?
Response (Andrew Moore)
Certification allows CRL to deliver international packages. To get this certification the wood must be
heat-treated (use of kilns) or manufactured in a mill (Canfor FSJ
sawmill). The certification exists in
order to eliminate the risk of pests and other biological agents from infecting
foreign environments.
5. Terms of Reference
·
Gail
gave a brief overview of what Terms or Reference (TOR) are and how they are
reported. She then proposed to the PAG
that the Terms of Reference should be reviewed bi-annually (every 2 years)
instead of annually.
·
PAG
reviewed the Terms of Reference and the proposed changes. Parts of the TOR with changes were:
i. Background
A.1 Pilot Project
A.2 Description of Pilot Project Area
ii. Operating Rules
C.2 Meeting Agenda and Dates
iii. D. Timelines
iv. E. Communications
1) Internal to PAG
v. F. Meeting Expenses and Logistics
1) Meeting Expenses for one representative from each interest
group is available
vi. G. Roles and Responsibilities
1) Public Advisory Group
vii. I. Dispute Resolution Mechanism
2) Technical Issues
viii. K. Review of and Revisions to Terms of
Reference.
Question From PAG
Regarding
Roles and responsibilities for First Nations:
Why does Roles and Responsibilities state, “In addition to First Nations
participation, the PAG will consist of a representative for each of the
Following interests.” Shouldn’t First Nations be included in the list?
Response
Standard requires that Aboriginals (First Nations, Métis, and
Inuit) be consulted in a particular way.
Aboriginals have the opportunity to have a separate advisory group;
therefore, they are not involved in the PAG.
APPROVED: The PAG accepted the revisions to the TOR as
reviewed, and agreed that changing to biannual updates were acceptable.
·
See
Attached Revisions to Terms of Reference
ACTION: The
updated TOR will be sent to PAG members before the next PAG meeting.
6. Review
PAG Membership
·
Trappers - Vicky Allen not present, so no
representation from the trappers (may have inadvertently gone to the
·
Urban Communities - Orland Wilkerson not present.
·
Rural Communities – Jim Eglinski can no longer
represent the Rural component because he is mayor of
·
Stan Gladysz stated he represents “Non-commercial
Recreation – non-consumptive” not “Outdoor Recreation.”
ACTION: Change the
status of Stan from “Outdoor Recreation” to
“Non-commercial Recreation – non-consumptive.”
7. Proposed Changes to the CSA Matrix
·
Indicator
# 13: Wes Neumeier
reviewed the proposed changes to the indicator due to the changes in
regulation. The PAG accepted these
changes.
Question From PAG
What
are the Chief Forester Standards for seed collection?
Response (Wes Neumeier)
The Chief Forester Standards tells us how we can collect
seed. Some examples of these standards
are:
·
Seed
collected from a minimum of 10 trees.
·
Seed
collected in a 10km radius.
·
Seed
collected in a certain elevation range.
·
Transferring
of seedlings when on site.
Question From PAG
Are
you going with Forest Range Practices Act (FRPA) because the code regulation
doesn’t exist?
Response (Wes Neumeier)
Yes, because the rules were repealed
through the Code Pilot.
·
Indicator
# 51: Dave Menzies
continued utilization standards from the last PAG. The original proposal was to eliminate the
indicator due to changes with the stumpage rule. Dave explained that the original waste
calculation for the indicator was only intended to address conifer species;
however, now all species are used in the calculation. Due to this reason some of Canfor’s blocks
would be over the allowable limit because of incidental deciduous, which was
not economic to harvest. The revised indicator and target apply to Licencees
and not BCTS, and apply specifically to waste accumulations (e.g. roadside or
landing waste)
Question From PAG
If
a logging contractor is allowed to leave large volumes of wood behind in a BCTS
block this will severely limit the range use.
How will this issue be dealt with?
Response (Brain Farwell)
BCTS recognizes these issues and as BCTS gets involved in Timber
Range Action Plan (TRAPs), this issue will be specifically dealt with.
Question From PAG
How
do you determine what volume of waste wood is left on the block?
Response (Brain Farwell)
All blocks have an ocular estimate done. To date BCTS has ranged between 4-7m3/ha
with a few blocks around 10m3/ha.
BCTS cannot enforce the logger to bring uneconomic wood to be
manufactured because BCTS uses the Market Pricing System. The wood for BCTS is auctioned to the highest
bidder; therefore, we sell the write to harvest to the logging contractor. If a contractor doesn’t harvest all the
volume they still are responsible for payment on the wood left behind.
Question From PAG
Are
the new log grades anticipated, and why were they brought in?
Response (Dave Menzies)
The new log grades are legislative changes, which will be
effective April 1, 2006. These grades
were brought in due to the Mountain Pine Beetle infestations in the
interior. The old log grades assessed
the grade of a tree on whether it was alive or dead, thus creating cheap
stumpage ($0.25/m3), which was not accurate because more volume was
being recovered from these trees. The
new log grades assess the size and quality of these trees, which will thus
increase the volume being milled and better represent the block. It is expected that Canfor’s waste will
increase by 3%.
Question From PAG
How
does the exception to BCTS fit with Matrix?
Response (Brian Farwell)
BCTS cannot set utilization standards
because the logging contractor pays for the wood, and the wood must be
established at market value. This is a
provincial mandate for BCTS, which means BCTS cannot force a logger to haul
wood at a loss.
The PAG accepted the indicator as proposed, with the following
addition:
ACTION:
Change target to state that BCTS will report the percentage of blocks and roads
that fall within the target range of avoidable waste and residue accumulation
levels, and that this is a reporting function only.
·
Target
# 59: Jeff Beale
proposed to change the target from “annual” to “bi-annual” as discussed
previously. The PAG accepted this
change.
Trails: Gail
continued discussions on whether trails should be incorporated into the matrix. Dave Menzies mentioned that no Historical
trails (recognized under the Heritage Act) had been identified, so the
participants are not currently proposing to add any indicators related to
trails.
A PAG member brought up that the North West Mounted Police Trail
(RCMP) has started the process of being certified; however, logging is not
impacting this trail.
ACTION:
Update on status of RCMP Trail only if it becomes a Heritage Trail.
ACTION:
Prepare a presentation on the Heritage Act and Trails for a future PAG meeting.
Indicator # 60: Dave Menzies discussed how they track public comments and
respond with the timeframes outlined in the SFMP. This will be reported in the Annual Report.
APPROVED: The PAG accepted the revisions to the CSA
Matrix as reviewed.
·
See
Attached Revisions to CSA Matrix.
8. Biodiversity
Management Planning (John Deal)
ACTION:
Send copy of presentation to Joelle Scheck by April 30th, 2006.
9.
Public Presentations
10.
Proposed Focus for Next Meeting
ACTION: Have PAG
minutes and contact lists ready for audit.
-
Review
Draft 2005-06 Annual Report at a late September PAG meeting.
-
Bud
Phillips, Ron Wagner, Wayne, Joelle Scheck, and Fred Klassen.
·
The PAG discussed what field trips would be
appropriate, the three possible field trips were:
-
Examples of blue/red species
-
Differences between forest management and non-forest
management (oil and gas).
-
Graham management strategies.
ACTION: Prepare a
field trip with one of the areas listed above for early July (5-7).
·
The PAG discussed potential topics for the next PAG
presentation, some topics were:
-
The Heritage Act (specific to trails).
-
Follow-up on the Mountain Pine Beetle.
-
Ministry of environment presentation on Wildlife
Habitat Areas and
ACTION: Organize a
presentation for next PAG.
Attachments:
Indicator Statement |
Target Statement |
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The percentage of blocks and
roads assessed in which avoidable waste and residue levels are within the
target range |
Annually, 100% of cutblocks
and roads will fall within the target avoidable waste and residue range |
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SFM Objective: No decrease in the LTHL in the DFA |
||
Linkage to FSJPPR:
For
evaluation of LLS (Sec 42) |
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Indicator Statement:
“The percentage of blocks and
roads (excluding BCTS tenures) assessed in which avoidable waste and residue accumulation
(see Rationale) levels are within the target range”.
Target:
Annually, 100% of blocks and roads
(excluding BCTS tenures) will fall within the target avoidable waste and
residue accumulation levels.
Annually, BCTS will report the %
of blocks and roads which fall within the target range of avoidable waste and
residue accumulation levels.
Variance:
Maximum acceptable annual variance
is 5% less than the target (excluding BCTS tenures).
Rationale:
The
change to the wording of the indicator clarifies that the waste being assessed
for the purpose of the indicator will be that in roadside or landing
accumulations (i.e., not including material left dispersed for CWD or vertical
structure).
The
increase in the variance recognizes that the changes in log grades will result
in more material being classified as waste than in the past, even if no change
to practice occurs.
BCTS
target is a reporting function only, as it their mandate requires that markets
determine the utilization levels.
Indicator Statement |
Target Statement |
|
The
proportion of seeds for coniferous species collected and seedlings planted in
accordance with the regulation |
All
coniferous seeds will be collected and seedlings will be planted in
accordance with the regulations |
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SFM
Objectives: Conserve genetic diversity of tree stock |
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Linkage to FSJPPR: N/A |
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Seed and Vegetative Material
Use
Indicator Statement:
The percentage of seeds &
vegetative material collected and planted in accordance with the Chief
Forester’s Standards for Seed Use, November 20, 2004
Target Statement :
100% of all seeds and vegetative
material will be collected and planted in accordance with the Chief Forester’s
Standards for Seed Use, November 20, 2004
Variance:
As per the Chief Forester’s
Standards for Seed Use, no less than 95% of the combined total of the number of
seedlings and vegetative material planted during each fiscal year comply with
the transfer requirements outlined in Appendix 3 of that standard (Seedlots and
Vegetative Lots from Natural Stands).
Rationale:
Background: The Tree Cone, Seed
and Vegetative Material regulation has been repealed with the legislation
changes from FPC act to FRPA (Forest Range and Practices Act). Under FRPA, the Forest Planning and Practices
Regulation empowers the Chief Forester to make standards for the purpose of
regulating the use, registration, storage, selection or transfer of seed to be
used in the establishment of free growing stands. The Chief Forester’s Standards for Seed Use
were brought into force on November 20, 2004.
Therefore, to comply with the new Standards this SFMP indicator should
be updated to reference the new requirements and legislation.