Fort St. John Results Based Pilot Project

Public Advisory Group Meeting #18

February 3, 2003

6:00 pm to 9:30 pm

North Peace Cultural Center

APPROVED MEETING SUMMARY NOTES

Meeting Attendance:

Name

Interest

Phone

E-mail


Participants

 

Warren Jukes

Canfor

788-4355

  

 

David Menzies

Canfor

787-3613

  

 

Roger St. Jean

BC Timber Sales Program

787-5645

  

 

Jeff Beale

Slocan-LP OSB Corp

261-6464

  

 

PAG Interest Representatives and Alternates

 

 

Mike Waberski

Oil and Gas

787-0300

  

 

Vicki Allen

Trapping

785-5597

  

 

Ron Wagner

Labour

787-0172

  

 

Karen Goodings

Rural Communities

785-8084

  

 

Roy Lube

Outdoor Recreation

787-7619

  

 

Stanley Gladysz

Outdoor Recreation

785-2596

  

 

Orland Wilkerson

Urban Communities

787-6243

  

 

Wayne Sawchuck

Environment & Conservation

788-2685

  

 

Ray Jackson

Commercial Recreation

783-5220

  

 

Gary Rehmeier

Forest Contractors/Workers

787-5214

  

 

Fred Klassen

Forest Contractors/Workers

785-3901

  

 

Facilitator

 

 

Gail Wallin

305-1003

  

 

Advisors

 

 

Rod Backmeyer

Water, Land, Air Protection

787-3287

  

 

Paul Wooding

Canfor

604 661-5423  

 

Observers

 

 

Darren Rosie

Oil and Gas

787-8686

  

 

Minutes

Jeff Beale

261-6464

  

 

1.            Welcome and Introductions

§         Draft meeting #18 agenda, and Draft summary of May 6, 2002 Meeting #17, and Draft Matrix #17 from May 6 (PAG input) were circulated.

2.            Review of Draft Meeting #18 Agenda 

§         PAG reviewed and accepted the draft meeting agenda with a few additions.

3.            Review of Meeting 17 Summary (and Matrix 17)

§         PAG reviewed draft Meeting #17 summary notes. 

o       Stan Gladysz asked to have his name spelled correctly.

o       Meeting Summary as amended is accepted by PAG.

§         PAG read over the distributed CSA Matrix 17.  

o       PAG accepted the Matrix 17 as the summary of Meeting 17 PAG input.

§         Review of Action Items from Meeting 17:

o       Outstanding items are:

§         An explanation of the Natural Disturbance Unit by Landscape Unit (NDU LU) map was provided by the Working Group to the PAG

§         Confirmed that Working Group sent a thank-you letter to Frank Schlicting upon his resignation

§         Definition of a “Permanent Access Structure” is in the Glossary

§         Definition of “Well-growing” is now in the Glossary

§         Parking Lot items; PAG decided it wanted it retained in the Meeting Summary’s and in the Working Group “action list”.

4.            Update:  From the Participants

§         Cameron River Logging (CRL)

o       It is a 70,000 m3 coniferous 15 yr Non-Replaceable Forest License (NRFL)

o       CRL is now accepted as a participant in Code Pilot (Canfor does forest management for CRL)

§         Chetwynd Mechanical Pulp

o       85,000 m3 coniferous Non-Replaceable Forest License (NRFL), that is tied to Chetwynd pulp mill

o       Canfor is negotiating an agreement to manage the license

§         Canfor

o       705,000 m3,

o       Closing their Taylor operation except for the planer and kilns

o       $1.5 Million upgrade at Taylor mill

o       $ 16 Million upgrade at Fort St. John mill (small log line, and kilns)

§         Slocan-LP

o       An Open Letter to the Community is being released in about one week

o       Key message is that construction of the OSB (oriented strand board) mill is delayed due to poor economic climate

o       Construction site properties are being purchased, showing a signal of confidence in the OSB project

5.  Review STAC Input

§         Note the STAC (Scientific & Technical Advisory Committee) provided the Working Group with input through 2 meetings in 2002 (April & July).  The Working Group developed responses and made subsequent changes to the CSA matrix.  The STAC input and WG response is what is being tabled now for PAG comment and agreement sought.

§         Comments on Natural Disturbance Units/Landscape Units (NDU/LU):

“It's a better fit with the objectives and strategies in the LRMP with respect to targets, measurable indicators and management intensities.

§         Indicator 44 – Is a new indicator

§         Indicator 45 – Is the percentage of “species at risk”

We're working to a revised BC definition of “species at risk” that is consistent to Ministry of Water, Air & Land Protection (MWALP's) description of fungi to North eastern BC species.

o       The PAG is looking for assurance that “species at risk” are included in the SFMP

§         Indicator 46 – Percentage of certified seed mix

o       The PAG questioned, “Who's definition of certified of seed are we proposing to use?”  PAG requested that the wording be "ensure it's certified free of Peace River noxious weed species".  PAG & WG agreed.

            Parking Lot:

                        "Use of native species and certification regarding absences of noxious weeds"

                        - PAG recommended the WG should consider a target for Halfway-Graham and Muskwa-Kechika areas.

            Target 9.2            At 100% natural regeneration

§         PAG: What is it about?   The WG gave clarification to PAG

            Target 14.2            How much is disturbed?

§         PAG: Reword to include, “intentional fires”?, OR was PAG questioning whether intentional fires are included in the forested area disturbed?

            Target 14.3            How much are we proposing to salvage?

§         WG response was it will be estimated on the basis of economics and guided by the RMZ objectives from the LRMP

            Target 13.3            Is the date 2009 correct? WG response was yes.

            Target 23.1            PAG asked:  Can't this be done sooner?

§         Develop a coordinated develop plan with other industries

§         Report the number of proposed coordinated developments.

§         Report the number of developments accepted and not accepted for coordination

§         Report annually and incorporate into Landscape Level Targets

            Indicator 22            The WG clarified the definition of THLB/NHLB

Element 4.2 Forest Land Conversion

§         The PAG questioned whether there is an avenue in the SFMP to convert forest land to agriculture.  The WG responded that the SFMP would not have an avenue for that.

Element 5.1 

§         Indicator 47 & Target 47.1 - is a new indicator for “species of societal value”.  Great discussion around this.  Since we are managing for “species at risk” and other “indicator species” under Element 1.2, therefore we delete Indicator 47 and Target 47.1 and turn down the recommendation from STAC (PAG said not important)

·        New Target 47.1 Reads:  "Identify key indicator species that the public identifies with that have social or economic values, and must have management strategies for those species (as identified through the PAG process).

Comment on Target 47.1    A PAG member recalled that a December 2000 list of species might have the species list previously identified?

Further discussion led to the need for the SFMP (sustainable forest management plan) to accurately describe and communicate to the public that a range of species has been considered in the SFMP, and that they are addressed via "Tables/Appendices and management strategies".  Note that the SFM plan is considering a wide range of species.

Element 1.2 Species Diversity

§         Review of Indicator 45: PAG suggested the WG find different or better spot for it in the CSA matrix.

Target 31.1     Review wording and clarify or if possible reword to say "100% of wood partners are in control of".

7.            Review Terms of Reference and Proposed Changes from Working Group

§         Ignore Gail's/Working Groups’ changes

§         Timelines:  Keep what you have in the Terms of Reference, but

 Add in what the PAG has completed   "Done/Date"

            Section A sub (G.) 1b:            Gail will be making changes

Add in the new participants Cameron River Logging (CRL), and Canfor will represent Chetwynd Mechanical Pulp on an interim basis

           

            ACTION ITEM: Re-table a REVISED Terms of Reference for next meeting

8.            Membership Update and Recommendations

§         Karen Goodings and Stan Gladysz will cover Range, Agriculture and Private Woodlots.

9.            Update: Changes to Pilot Regulations

§         Roger St. Jean provided an update and handouts.

10.  Update: CSA Standard

§         Original standard developed in 1996 and approved by SCC (Standards Council of Canada) as a National Standard of Canada

§         CSA standards are reviewed and updated every 5 years

§         The FSJ Code Pilot has been working with a changing draft of the CSA matrix, but has been finalized and approved by the Technical Steering Committee working on the 5-year review and approved by CSA as of December 2002.  It is called the CSA Z809-02 document

§         SCC has not yet finished its official approval, therefore a bit of a stall on the official release of the CSA Z809-02 document standard as a National Standard of Canada but it won't have any impact on what we have worked on so far.

ACTION ITEM:

·        Copy CSA handout p 44 S5.4a, cut-and-paste it into the TOR, replacing TOR Section B (b).

·        Circulate the web site link in the minutes

      Canadian Standards Association:         www.csa.ca

      Standards Council of Canada:        www.scc.ca

11.  Update:  Canfor's ISO Audit Results (2002)

§         Canfor re-registrations down by KPMG in fall of 2002

                        Regarding            - Major non-compliances                        0

                                                - Minor non-compliances                        0

                                                - Opportunities for improvement            2

12.  Recreation

§         Element 5:                        Indicator 26 – Number of recreation sites managed by companies?   Canfor manages the Crying Girl recreation site.  Several others (Inga, Duhu, and Halfway-Graham) are in transition from BC Forest Service management to other entities.

            PAG members commented:  “Closing recreation sites is unacceptable”

                        PAG suggested two options – 

1.      Have the Ministry of Forests continue operating the recreation sites and maintain the access, OR

2.      Have the Companies take them over

           

PAG recommended the partners take on this for public relations.

13.  Timber Supply Review

§         The Chief Forester of the B.C. Ministry of Forests determined an increase of 100,000 m3 to coniferous annual allowable cut. 

14.  Items for Next Meeting?

§         Review revised Terms of Reference

§         Discuss & Define the Future Role of PAG regarding:

                        1.  CSA

                                    - Implementation / Review

                                    a.  Development of alternate strategies

                                                Matrix changes

b.      Review & revision of the draft SFM Plan

c.       Timelines

d.      Audit involvement

15.  Next Meeting

§         The next meeting will be held June 2, 2003: at 6:00PM in the North Peace Cultural Centre.